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Title: Through the Fog 23 Oct 2009 8:50 am
Reviewer: Catalpa (Anonymous) [Report This]
    My parents never had to confront me because I made a choice not to drink or smoke. Both my parents smoked and my mother was an alcoholic. My younger brother, on the other hand, chose to drink and smoke. Go figure! Two kids with identical influences go in opposite directions! I don't have kids, but I can certainly empathize with Snape's position: how do you/CAN you get the message across to your child? And how do you persuade without alienating? In the end, the scary aspect is that it still comes down to a matter of choice over which the parent has no real control. Great chapter! Hope some young people take the lesson!

    Just a note: about halfway through the chapter, during Snape's lecture, he says something about smearing the name of an EXTINGUISHED wizard institution. I'm assuming that you meant DISTINGUISHED?

    Author's Response:

    Omg!! That's too funny.  Thanks for catching that.  Oops...

     

    There is a grand debate, isn't there, of whether nurture or nature plays a role in behaviour and choices we make. I had a difficult childhood and I could have made the decision to become an alcoholic, become addicted to drugs etc... but I didn't and I sometimes wonder how I managed to remain sane through it all. Of course whether I'm sane or not is a matter of opinion amongst my family and friends. LOL!  Seriously though, I think that it's a combination and some people are stronger and can resist peer pressure. Adults that you can count on would certainly make a difference, but it is not a prerequisite, as I didnt' have that, and I think that I turned out not too bad.

     

    Thanks for your review and thanks for pointing out the blunder. I'll go back and change it.

Title: Through the Fog 11 Aug 2009 9:29 am
Reviewer: xxslytheringirlxx (Signed) [Report This]
    this is truley a wonderfull story cant wait for the next chapter

    Author's Response: Thank you so much.  I'm going to work on it today.
Title: Through the Fog 09 Aug 2009 6:04 am
Reviewer: Kodak717 (Signed) [Report This]
    ah, good job, Severus. What a tough spot for a parent to be in. The scene ith McCleggan was funny. And, of course, very nice writing. But that goes without saying :)

    Author's Response:

    Yeah, not an easy situation to deal with, and I thought that Severus handled it surprisingly well considering his lack of experience as a father. Oh, I'm glad that you liked that scene, even though I took it from the movie.

     

    Thank you Kodak.

Title: Through the Fog 06 Aug 2009 5:58 pm
Reviewer: wrappedinharry (Signed) [Report This]
    You were right Dawn...the scene with McClaggen made me laugh out loud. I did enjoy it in the movie and I enjoyed it here too.

    Did Hermione and Ginny dob on the revellers? Interesting.

    I thought Severus was very patient with HArry. At least HArry seems to have seen the error of his ways. For a while I thought Severus was going to give Harry a hiding, though I am not sure how you administer corporal punishment to a 17 year old. But now I think Severus is going to show Harry memories of his own drunken father. Am I right? He is going to let harry know that Tobias is Harry's grandfather and that the potential to be a drunkard is there because addictive behaviours such as alcoholism can be passed on.

    I would have thought that Ron's howler might not have been so mortifying because it would have gone off at the same time as all the other howlers you said arrived. But you didn't mention them again. The Great Hall must have been bedlam with so many howlers going off together. Perhaps Molly's was the loudest. Bit embarrassing really to know that your mum has the shrillest voice! LOL. I personally would rather that my displeasure with my children be kept a private family affair. Howlers really embarrass the whole family, not just the recipient. I would be more embarrassed that the whole school thinks my mum is a harpy. After all, the school knew what had happened the night before and they knew punishments would abound.

    Anway, can't wait to find out what Sev has in store for Harry.

    Lesley~

    Author's Response:

    Oh thanks.  I just couldn't resist, especially since it fit so perfectly in with my scene of drunken students!!

    Well, Hermione IS a prefect and she has a responsibility to keep her charges safe, so you could see where the dilemma lies. She takes her duties very seriously. Also, where do you draw the line at  keeping secrets that could endanger your friends' health, or even their lives. Sometimes you have to balance out a perceived loyalty with what is in the best interest of all concerned. Sometimes, the two just don't go hand in hand and then you have to make a difficult decision.

    Yeah, Severus was quite patient with Harry, well as patient as Severus is capable of.  He did very well. I'm quite proud of Sev!  Although, inside he was seething.  Severus sent Harry to be because he didn't trust himelf not to thrash the living daylights out of him, and he doesn't want to turn into his father.  It took iron control not to give Harry a hiding! Oh, and if anyone could figure out a way to administer CP on a seventeen year old, I think that Snape would have figured out a way!  No, Snape, although furious, used all his self-discipline to control his anger.

    Yes, Severus wants to really make sure that Harry understands fully the consequences of alcohol abuse. Although it pleases Severus that Harry might abstain from abusing alcohol, Severus doesn't want that to be the sole reason that Harry abstains from drinking. He wants Harry to really understand why he is so against it. It is not enough that obeys just to appease Severus. For the lesson to sink in, Harry has to understand that, as you said, alcoholism destroyed Severus' life, and his mothers. For that matter, it destroyed Tobias'.  Severus doesn't want Harry to believe that it is just a control issue, with Severus issuing commands, and Harry obeying. He wants Harry to see that he really cares about him, and wants to save him from a painful future.

    You are absolutely right about the Howlers.  Although many others received Howlers, and they did echo throughout the Great Hall, those in the vicinity of the Gryffindor Table, would have been able to hear Molly's loud shrill over the others. Yeah, Harry is very thankful that Severus is a private man and prefers to ream Harry out in private because Ron was mortified, as were the other miscreants who were publicly reprimanded! 

    Both Severus and Harry are in for a difficult time facing harsh realities and painful pasts.

     

Title: Through the Fog 05 Aug 2009 7:15 pm
Reviewer: Snapegirl (Signed) [Report This]
    I think Severus handled that well, much better than I would have. I would have flipped if my kid had been caught with both drugs AND alcohol. I'm wondering now what Severus will show Harry to convince him to learn his lesson. I think Harry is sorry though and won't do something so stupid again.

    I had to laugh at Mrs. Weasley though! Ron is going to be up to his elbows in dirty dishes or whatever when HE gets home. And I wonder what the school does in cases like this?

    At college we would give you a written reprimand, goes on your record, sometimes it was reported to the police, who then would either press charges and set a court date and fine the person and give them community service to do for 30 days plus a six week Drug and Alcohol Counseling program if it was a first offense. A second and you might do some time in jail. Plus probation, meaning one more disciplinary action and you were expelled.

    If you like some of those ideas, you could use them. Sorry I'm reviewing late, I meant to review last night but I was tired. Check out my new chapter of 2HH for Tom Riddle's childhood.

    Author's Response:

    I thought that Severus managed to keep his cool pretty well, but it wasn't easy!  Harry needs something really life-altering to happen to make him understand Severus' concerns. Although, this time I truly believe that he's learnt his lesson, one more lesson wouldn't hurt.

    Yeah, I couldn't resist the howler!  Mrs. Weasley will not let Ron off easy.  McGonagall will tell the parents and come up with a severe enough punishment to really get the message through.

    I think that this offence, will go on their record, but I don't think that McGonagall will involve Aurors in this, as it is something that the school would want to handle internally, and in Wizarding Society they consider the parents to be responsible for disciplining their children, unless they break serious laws like murder, Dark Magic or theft.  I think they would prefer to keep this under wraps also, because it might make some question the security and care of their students. It is possible that some parents might consider that their childrens were inadequately supervised and pull them out of Hogwarts!

     Thanks for the ideas though, and yes the students involved will be placed on some sort of school probation with the threat of expulsion should such a breach of rules occur again.  Don't worry, the children will be punished severely both at home and at school, which is why Severus insists that Harry must submit to whatever disciplinary action McGonagall dishes out. He really wants Harry to learn from this.

    Oh I already read the chapter and it was great. I already left a review. Manor coming up next?

Title: Through the Fog 04 Aug 2009 7:15 pm
Reviewer: cckeimig (Signed) [Report This]
    Well-handled discipline, and the memories are going to be tough, I can tell.

    Author's Response:

    I think that Snape was a little tough with Harry, but not cruel, and yeah, it's going to be rough for Snape to relive his worst memories.

    Thanks,

Title: Through the Fog 03 Aug 2009 9:26 pm
Reviewer: Kristeh (Signed) [Report This]
    Oh, I understand why Hermione (and Ginny?) would go to the adults, if indeed that's what happened, and I think they were right to do so. I'm just not sure that Ron and Harry would see it that way.

    And I meant to add poor Ron for getting that Howler! Although if so many other kids were getting them too, maybe it wouldn't be quite as bad. And yeah, I don't think Ron is going to enjoy his holidays, is he?

    Author's Response:

    Well, Harry might come to understand after his initial anger and disappointment wears off, but Ron, uh, it might take a bit longer!

    Yeah, poor Ron, but he's not the only one that got one.  I wouldn't want to be in his shoes when Molly gets a hold of him. She'd probably do like Snape would have in the past in detention, make him scrub the toilet with a toothbrush! :)

Title: Through the Fog 03 Aug 2009 6:50 am
Reviewer: Kristeh (Signed) [Report This]
    Oh, this is even better than I expected, Pandora! So many things here...what shall I say first?

    Well, I laughed at McCleggan offering Severus a drink and then throwing up on him (I loved that scene in the movie, too. It's priceless.). He really must have been out of his mind.

    I agree with the Gryffindors. I'd take angry McGonagall over angry Snape any day, though McGonagall can be very intimidating herself.

    Severus has every right to be upset and angry. As a parent I would be too, probably much more so because my kids don't have the excuse of having grown up without adult guidance and the weight of the world on their shoulders. But I liked that, as upset as he is, it also made him think on his own shortcomings and his troubled history with his son.

    Harry is so courageous in many ways, but he may not have Neville's type of courage, the courage and self-confidence to stand up to one's friends and say 'no' to them. I wonder if Harry is a bit like Remus in this way. He never had any friends before coming to Hogwarts and even during his school years, there were a few times when everyone turned against him, even Ron much as I love the little redhead. I don't condone Harry's behavior here, but I do think it is understandable that he might be insecure, even now, about his friends' loyalty and love.

    I loved how Severus expressed his regret over the past, and his unfair treatment of Harry, when they talked, and I would love to see them do a lot more of that, talking about how their past affects their present decisions and feelings.

    I am very curious to see if Hermione and Ginny went to the teachers, and if so, if there is going to be any hard feelings between the boys and the girls. I can see Harry and Ron feeling very betrayed and angry, even if deep inside they know they were in the wrong. They're still at an age where ratting your peers out to an adult is taboo.

    And I'm so intrigued by the last sentence and what that might mean. I can't wait for the next chapter!

    Wonderful job, as always!

    Author's Response:

    Thanks, I just couldn't resist with that scene. It was one of my favourite parts of the movie. I  hope that everyone will get a little chuckle out of that.

    Yeah, definitely McGonagall over Snape.  That man can be scary when he's in a snit, but when he quietly fuming, he's downright dangerous. It's all that black I think!

    Severuse feels like he's failed Harry, but  he knows that with their history, it might be hard for Harry to really take Severus advice, because Severus feels that Harry may not respect him, or his opinions.  That is not the case at al, strangely enough, but it's how Severus perceives the whole situation. You are right, Harry just wanted to be a teenager and have fun, and he let his friends talk him into doing something that he knew that Severus would disapprove of. I think that in normal circumstances, that at seventeen, after having years of guidance from your parents, you would either take the lessons and values they have given you and use them to fall back on when you're not sure what to do and faced with peer pressure, or you cave in. Harry's had no such lessons, and still manages to be morally strong, yet when it comes to pleasing his friends, his resolve crumbles.  Like you said, he never had any friends before coming to Hogwarts and craves their approval, and is afraid to do anything to hurt that friendship.

    I think that Severus and Harry are going to be having many more conversations from now on. I think that they've hit a milestone, and they're relationship has taken a new turn.  I think that, as strange as it may sound, that this incident may turn out to be a positive turning point in their relationship. As angry as Snape was with Harry, he kept his cool and handled the situation as if he'd been a parent all along. He's floundering, but when Harry saw how, though Severus was firm, he wasn't cruel and put a lot of thought into what he said to Harry. I think that Severus' apology and admittance that he was uncertain how to be a father, really got through to Harry.  Yeah, the punishment sucks, but it was something that a parent does when they care about their children, and I think that Harry , after seeing his friend's parents reactions, realises that Snape is just reacting like a normal father would when his kid screws up, and that just makes Harry see Snape in a new light.

    Even if Hermiione and Ginny went to the teachers, I think that I can understand why they would, particularly Hermione. Aftre all, she's a Prefect and has a responsibility to all the students that she takes very seriously. She is torn between loyalty to her friends and possible serious repercussions should one of the younger students gets too drunk or stoned.  This is a very dangerous combination.  She doesn't want to be responsible if anything should happen.

     She might have been willing to take a chance that when Harry and Ron are sober enough, that they woud be mature enough to realise that her first responsibility was the safety of the students. Ron is not known for his maturity however. It might take him longer to forgive.

     

    Thanks Kristeh. I'll try not to make it too long.  

     

     


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