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Title: Sins of the Father 20 Aug 2009 2:22 am
Reviewer: Ponytail Goddess (Signed) [Report This]
    Good chapter--I especially liked the description of how they got into the penseive. It was very original and cool.

    Harry--STOP GETTING INTO TROUBLE! Good grief! This boy is making me want to pull my hair out! Christmas is coming and I so badly want it to be a good break for Harry, but if he keeps getting into trouble, it's just not going to happen. Grr.

    I'm glad Snape and Harry are going to discuss Harry's previous abuse though and I'm glad that Harry finally told someone, even if it was inadvertent.

    I look forward to reading more father-son goodness soon!

    -P.G.

    Author's Response:

     

     Oh thank you!

    Don't worry PG. They are going to have a very interesting Christmas (evil cackle, hee hee).

    Oh yes, Snape is not finished with the discussion about Harry's past abuse--not by a long shot!

     I'll make sure to put in extra just for you!! :)  I love Harry and Snape "talks" too.  I love when they reach this stage, after it has taken so long to get there.

     

     

Title: Sins of the Father 20 Aug 2009 1:56 am
Reviewer: wrappedinharry (Signed) [Report This]
    Well, the memory certainly had an impact on Harry...it's to be hoped that impact continues. I know from experience that it like talking to a brick wall when it comes to recommending restraint as far as drinking goes. They all think they are immune to any long term effects. And Harry is so devil-may-care in every other aspect of his life, I would be surprised if he never touches a drink again. And it is definitely the hardest thing of all to restrict yourself to one or two drinks if you are partying and are surrounded by a room full of friends in various stages of inebriation. Still, it is to be hoped the message gets through.

    I know what you said about Hermione having to put her responsibility as a prefect ahead of her loyalty to her friends, but I think she (and Ginny) went about it the wrong way. And now she is acting like the wounded party. Ginny is no better. And I am not sure if I was HArry that I would be willing to break the impasse. If they are both happy to continue with the cold shoulder, then I am not sure that I would want to give them a break and crawl back into their good books. Hermione is just a little too self righteous for my taste. And if Harry thinks Ginny is no longer interested in him because his looks have changed, then he should wait and see if she comes to him. No point forcing a relationship that isn't going to go anywhere. If she is happy to stay away from Harry, she can't really care for him very much.

    What's with Malfoy? And would that idiot Adams have really attacked Harry again after what happened the last time?

    I just find it frustrating that Harry may go running after the pair of them, he will probably say he is sorry and how very wrong he was and Hermione and Ginny will condescend to forgive him in their sanctimonious way. I also have to say that I am not entirely sure that students drinking is the end of the world. As has been stated before...Harry is of age' as is Ron and Hermione is acting as if they are recalcitrant children. Their own suffering (without giving them anything to cure their hangovers) and some detentions should be the end of it, I think. They are hardly the first students to have a drinking party. And telling someone they can't do something is a sure way of making sure they do it again in my humble opinion.

    Lesley~

    Author's Response:

    Well, I think that Severus is just worried that Harry will folllow in his grandfather's footsteps. Whether he is overreacting or not,  the danger is there and Harry has used alcohol to forget his problems, not just to have a good time, so Severus is worried that Harry is becoming dependant.

     

    Well, I think that Hermione considered all her options here. Okay, so there were students as young as thirteen and fourteen at this party, drinking alcohol and partaking in illegal Muggle drugs. This was not just a case of a few seventeen year olds having a little party and a couple of drinks, there was a very real possibility that one of the younger students, or even Ron and Harry could have put their health, or even their life in danger. Imagine, a third year student, who is way to young to gauge how much alcohol it takes before he ends up in a coma or dying from alcohol poisoning. How would Hermione feel?  And for that matter, how would Harry or Ron feel if something bad happened to younger students, that they are supposed to be role models to.

     

    A boarding school like Hogwarts has to have a strict policy for all when it comes to drinking and drug use. If they allow the older students to drink, but not the younger ones, there is no level of control here. As Severus pointed out, Harry could have gone with his seventh year friends to a pub in Hogsmeade, had a couple of drinks, and he wouldn't have been breaking any Hogwarts rules, but the fact that he exposed younger students to danger through his actions, well that just can't be overlooked.

     

    I do agree that if Severus had of simply told Harry to stop drinking, it would have been ineffective. This is why Severus felt it necessary to let Harry view some of his very painful memories, to bring home the message that excessive drinking can lead to alcoholism and since it's already in the family, Harry is at a higher risk than normal. This is one of the reasons that Severus was careful to tell Harry that he couldn't drink at all, just to try to excercise better judgement, next time around.

     First of all, Ginny is not withdrawing from Harry because his appearance has changed, but she does feel a little uncomfortable. It's hard to look at a stranger, and yet know that this is the man that you love. It's a little strange for her to connect the two.  She's not rejecting him, but trying to get used to kissing someone who doesn't look like Harry anymore. There is a shy awkwardness going on here.  It's like they've just started dating.  I don't think that Ginny is really angry per se at Harry, but she is a little disappointed in him, but she really loves and cares about Harry, and if she did squeal on him, it was because she was truly concerned about him.

     

    Anyway, we have to remember that both Severus and McGonagall are very reserved and old school, as are many of the Wizarding parents.  Molly is angry that Ron had totally disregarded the school rules and brought unwanted attention to her family.  Also, she is appalled that Ron, who is also a Prefect, has shown poor judgement and failed in his duties as a role model to the younger students.

    First of all, it is irrelevant what you and I would do in the same situation (when my daughter got drunk for the first time, I just let her terrible puking session, and subsequant hangover the next day be her punishment), I have to think how someone like Snape, McGonagall, or Molly would react. Let's face it, Snape has always been a stickler for following the rules, and he is especially sensitive when it comes to Harry getting drunk.  and let's not forget that they were smoking weed as well!

Title: Sins of the Father 19 Aug 2009 8:07 pm
Reviewer: EllaEleniel (Signed) [Report This]
    Great chapter. I loved Sev showing Harry that memory. It really brought home to him how serious alcoholism can be, and it's always more impacting when you see something that like from another person.

    I hope Harry gets to speak with Hermione and Ginny soon, but that he doesn't get in trouble for it.

    Author's Response:

    Thank you. I think that the memory was necessary, even though it was very painful for Severus. But Harry needed to see that to really understand what dangers drinking can lead to.

    Well, at least he's going to talk to Ginny, and we'll see how well that goes. Yeah, Severus wouldn't be too pleased if he knew.

Title: Sins of the Father 19 Aug 2009 4:59 pm
Reviewer: Kristeh (Signed) [Report This]
    Wonderful chapter! It was very brave of Severus to re-visit his past memories, as painful as they are for him, but I think it was a good decision. Showing Harry that memory, letting him actually see the pain and misery that alcoholism can cause a family...I'm sure that was far more effective than just lecturing.

    I was so touched by the talk that Severus and Harry had. They have come a long way in their relationship. And I'm glad to see that Harry is really understanding that he needs to be responsible about alcohol, and to see that they both truly care for one another.

    I'm glad that Severus is learning a little about the Dursleys, too. Harry may not have to see them again, but the neglect and abuse he suffered during his early childhood has effects on him, just as Severus' past affects him still. To really know and understand his son, Severus needs to know about the Dursleys, and vice versa, too.

    The scene with the Slytherins was interesting. I hope Adams will be expelled before he can cause serious trouble...he seems like such a jerk. And Draco used his Slytherin traits to come to Harry's aid, even if it was more for Severus than for Harry himself.

    Now I just can't wait to see what's going to happen with Harry and Ginny!

    Fantastic chapter, Pandora!

    Author's Response:

    Thank you.  It was very difficult for Severus to explore a part of his past that he had long buried. I think that it's a testament of their burdgeoning relationship  that he is willing to swallow his pride and be willing to face his horrible past to help Harry. That was a very selfless act on his part.  I think that Severus is growing as a person as well. I believe that they've been good for each other, and they've helped each other become better people.

    I think that Harry got a really good eye-opener here. I think that he's finally learnt his lesson, and he knows now that Severus is not trying to lord it over him, but is genuinely concerned over Harry's welfare.  I think that Harry is finally learning to appreciate that. Also, Harry had a very warped sense of the effects of alcohol. He tended to minimize the ramifications of the over-indulgence of alcohol.

    I think that Severus had an idea of the Dursley's neglect, but just never realised the extent of it. It think that it was really important that Severus knows, because, as you said, it helps bring them even closer because it helps them better understand each other.

     Yeah, Adams is a dangerous enemy.  He wasn't so bad before the war, but now he's bitter and feels as though Severus betrayed him and his family. His father was a Deatheater, and is in prison. Of course he blames Harry, and to a certain extent Severus. 

     Draco is going through a lot of changes right now. He respects Severus, and yes felt some jealousy because of Harry's new relationship with Severus. On one hand, he cares about Severus' opinion of him, but he still harbors animosity that Harry has more or less taken HIS place in Severus' affections. Severus has been working hard though, to show Draco that he's still there for him, and Draco is trying to gain Severus' trust again, and to do so, he must make peace with Harry. I don't believe that they'll ever be best friends, but if they can co-exist without strangling each other, it's a step in the right direction.

    I think that Ginny and Harry have a lot of things to work out, and hopefully they can clear the air.   Ginny was a little disappointed in Harry's immaturity in getting sloshed and experimenting with drugs.  Although she understands the pressures that he's been under for the past few weeks, she felt that he excerised bad judgement, and expected more from him. She still cares for him deeply though, and they need to talk with each other and gets some things straightened out before they can grow in their relationship.

     

    Thanks Kristeh. I'm really anxious for a good dose of SC!!! Hopefully soon?

Title: Sins of the Father 19 Aug 2009 4:06 pm
Reviewer: dancingkatz (Signed) [Report This]
    I think this is your best chapter yet. The growing father/son relationship was beautifully depicted in Severus and Harry's talk. And, as always, the characterizations are very well done. I was very happy to see the update notice in my email 's inbox this morning and am looking forward to the continuation of this story. Keep up the great work! Bravissimi!

    Dancingkatz

    Author's Response:

    Oh thank you so much. I think that Severus and Harry are finally beginning to understand and care for each other deeply. It was very difficult for both of them to discuss their painful pasts, but I think that it helped their relationship to grow even more.

     I really appreciate your encouragement, and it means alot to ME that you took the time to review.

Title: Sins of the Father 19 Aug 2009 3:48 pm
Reviewer: jessirose85 (Signed) [Report This]
    I hope he figures out what happened and the girls accept his apologies xx

    Author's Response: Well, the problem is that there might need to be apologies and understanding on both sides.  He is going to be a little hurt as what might be perceived as betrayal if he finds out that Ginny had something to do with McGonagall and Snape finding out about the party, but I think that he might understand their reasoning and get past his feelinss of hurt and betrayal.
Title: Through the Fog 11 Aug 2009 9:29 am
Reviewer: xxslytheringirlxx (Signed) [Report This]
    this is truley a wonderfull story cant wait for the next chapter

    Author's Response: Thank you so much.  I'm going to work on it today.
Title: Through the Fog 09 Aug 2009 6:04 am
Reviewer: Kodak717 (Signed) [Report This]
    ah, good job, Severus. What a tough spot for a parent to be in. The scene ith McCleggan was funny. And, of course, very nice writing. But that goes without saying :)

    Author's Response:

    Yeah, not an easy situation to deal with, and I thought that Severus handled it surprisingly well considering his lack of experience as a father. Oh, I'm glad that you liked that scene, even though I took it from the movie.

     

    Thank you Kodak.

Title: Through the Fog 06 Aug 2009 5:58 pm
Reviewer: wrappedinharry (Signed) [Report This]
    You were right Dawn...the scene with McClaggen made me laugh out loud. I did enjoy it in the movie and I enjoyed it here too.

    Did Hermione and Ginny dob on the revellers? Interesting.

    I thought Severus was very patient with HArry. At least HArry seems to have seen the error of his ways. For a while I thought Severus was going to give Harry a hiding, though I am not sure how you administer corporal punishment to a 17 year old. But now I think Severus is going to show Harry memories of his own drunken father. Am I right? He is going to let harry know that Tobias is Harry's grandfather and that the potential to be a drunkard is there because addictive behaviours such as alcoholism can be passed on.

    I would have thought that Ron's howler might not have been so mortifying because it would have gone off at the same time as all the other howlers you said arrived. But you didn't mention them again. The Great Hall must have been bedlam with so many howlers going off together. Perhaps Molly's was the loudest. Bit embarrassing really to know that your mum has the shrillest voice! LOL. I personally would rather that my displeasure with my children be kept a private family affair. Howlers really embarrass the whole family, not just the recipient. I would be more embarrassed that the whole school thinks my mum is a harpy. After all, the school knew what had happened the night before and they knew punishments would abound.

    Anway, can't wait to find out what Sev has in store for Harry.

    Lesley~

    Author's Response:

    Oh thanks.  I just couldn't resist, especially since it fit so perfectly in with my scene of drunken students!!

    Well, Hermione IS a prefect and she has a responsibility to keep her charges safe, so you could see where the dilemma lies. She takes her duties very seriously. Also, where do you draw the line at  keeping secrets that could endanger your friends' health, or even their lives. Sometimes you have to balance out a perceived loyalty with what is in the best interest of all concerned. Sometimes, the two just don't go hand in hand and then you have to make a difficult decision.

    Yeah, Severus was quite patient with Harry, well as patient as Severus is capable of.  He did very well. I'm quite proud of Sev!  Although, inside he was seething.  Severus sent Harry to be because he didn't trust himelf not to thrash the living daylights out of him, and he doesn't want to turn into his father.  It took iron control not to give Harry a hiding! Oh, and if anyone could figure out a way to administer CP on a seventeen year old, I think that Snape would have figured out a way!  No, Snape, although furious, used all his self-discipline to control his anger.

    Yes, Severus wants to really make sure that Harry understands fully the consequences of alcohol abuse. Although it pleases Severus that Harry might abstain from abusing alcohol, Severus doesn't want that to be the sole reason that Harry abstains from drinking. He wants Harry to really understand why he is so against it. It is not enough that obeys just to appease Severus. For the lesson to sink in, Harry has to understand that, as you said, alcoholism destroyed Severus' life, and his mothers. For that matter, it destroyed Tobias'.  Severus doesn't want Harry to believe that it is just a control issue, with Severus issuing commands, and Harry obeying. He wants Harry to see that he really cares about him, and wants to save him from a painful future.

    You are absolutely right about the Howlers.  Although many others received Howlers, and they did echo throughout the Great Hall, those in the vicinity of the Gryffindor Table, would have been able to hear Molly's loud shrill over the others. Yeah, Harry is very thankful that Severus is a private man and prefers to ream Harry out in private because Ron was mortified, as were the other miscreants who were publicly reprimanded! 

    Both Severus and Harry are in for a difficult time facing harsh realities and painful pasts.

     

Title: Through the Fog 05 Aug 2009 7:15 pm
Reviewer: Snapegirl (Signed) [Report This]
    I think Severus handled that well, much better than I would have. I would have flipped if my kid had been caught with both drugs AND alcohol. I'm wondering now what Severus will show Harry to convince him to learn his lesson. I think Harry is sorry though and won't do something so stupid again.

    I had to laugh at Mrs. Weasley though! Ron is going to be up to his elbows in dirty dishes or whatever when HE gets home. And I wonder what the school does in cases like this?

    At college we would give you a written reprimand, goes on your record, sometimes it was reported to the police, who then would either press charges and set a court date and fine the person and give them community service to do for 30 days plus a six week Drug and Alcohol Counseling program if it was a first offense. A second and you might do some time in jail. Plus probation, meaning one more disciplinary action and you were expelled.

    If you like some of those ideas, you could use them. Sorry I'm reviewing late, I meant to review last night but I was tired. Check out my new chapter of 2HH for Tom Riddle's childhood.

    Author's Response:

    I thought that Severus managed to keep his cool pretty well, but it wasn't easy!  Harry needs something really life-altering to happen to make him understand Severus' concerns. Although, this time I truly believe that he's learnt his lesson, one more lesson wouldn't hurt.

    Yeah, I couldn't resist the howler!  Mrs. Weasley will not let Ron off easy.  McGonagall will tell the parents and come up with a severe enough punishment to really get the message through.

    I think that this offence, will go on their record, but I don't think that McGonagall will involve Aurors in this, as it is something that the school would want to handle internally, and in Wizarding Society they consider the parents to be responsible for disciplining their children, unless they break serious laws like murder, Dark Magic or theft.  I think they would prefer to keep this under wraps also, because it might make some question the security and care of their students. It is possible that some parents might consider that their childrens were inadequately supervised and pull them out of Hogwarts!

     Thanks for the ideas though, and yes the students involved will be placed on some sort of school probation with the threat of expulsion should such a breach of rules occur again.  Don't worry, the children will be punished severely both at home and at school, which is why Severus insists that Harry must submit to whatever disciplinary action McGonagall dishes out. He really wants Harry to learn from this.

    Oh I already read the chapter and it was great. I already left a review. Manor coming up next?


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