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Title: Chapter 5 23 Apr 2011 9:13 pm
Reviewer: Anonymous (Anonymous) [Report This]
    Da-yum... color me FREAKED. I've never seen THIS twist in fandom. * co-signs for the rest of this ride *
Title: Chapter 5 23 Apr 2011 4:55 pm
Reviewer: Rhyselle (Signed) [Report This]
    Oh, yes, I'm all "nicely horrified".

    Please remind me who is Minister of Magic at this time. I simply can't believe that even Fudge could be this inhumane.

    This is all too reminiscent of the Slaughter of the Innocents by King Herod and the Pharoh's slaying of the Hebrew firstborn in the Bible. Was that which inspired you?

    This actually sounds more like an attack against Muggleborns and Halfbloods to me, using the "No Deatheater Genes" argument to actually get the job done. It totally wrong to punish the babies and the mothers who came to love them despite the circumstances of their conception.

    I wonder just who really is behind this horrible policy. And who is actually performing the paternity tests? St. Mungo's? I rather doubt that, actually. I can't see healers being executioners. Someone with an eye to truth, or someone who would lie in order to get the outcome they really want?

    How were the babies killed? I'm not meaning to sound gruesomely curious, but formerly, the main versions of execution in the Wizarding World that we've seen is the Dementor's Kiss, McNair's headsman's axe, and, presumably, the gateway through the veil in the Department of Mysteries. Or was some poor Auror charged to do it with Aveda Kedavra? Poison?

    This sounds like time for Hermione and Harry to use their hold on Rita Skeeter and make her write articles to rouse the wizards and witches into rebellion against the new policy.

    Hmmm. Now that I'm thinking about it, putting the original articles into the Daily Prophet might end up having the wrong result than the Ministry wants. Forewarned,expectant mothers and the mothers and babies that haven't yet registered or gone in like "law-abiding" citizens could flee the country using either magical or muggle means.

    Frankly, if I'd been the one to come up with this policy, it wouldn't have been publicized to everyone but instead quietly order St. Mungo's to use a blood sample at the birth of each child be used to "officially determine paternity for more accurate records", and then arrange for someone to "take care of it" outside of public knowledge. A spate of unexplainable "crib deaths" or an "unexpected terminal birth defect" would achieve the same outcome without the political fallout that the policy is sure to engender.

    Of course, for Harry and little Cieran, the current policy must have enough loopholes (which, I'm sure Hermione will start to figure out once her initial horror is over with) that they'll find a way to save not just Snape's son, but the others.

    Otherwise, are we going to start seeing more wizarding babies put in figurative Moses baskets and "left in the reeds" for Muggle Pharoh's Daughters to find and care for?

    An excellent and engrossing story! I look forward to seeing how it all works out. Well done!

    Author's Response:

    The current Minister is Kingsley Shacklebolt. At the moment, I haven't decided if he's actively endorsing this program, or if it's a case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.

    I like the correlation you found with King Herod, though that wasn't what I actually based this premise on. My idea sprung from the more recent Prima Nocte edict handed down by King Edward I of England, when British military tactics Epic Failed on conquering the Scots. If you can't stomp them out, breed them out, basically.

     Whether or not Voldemort would realize he was using a Muggle tactic, I'm not sure. He'd been pretty much bug-nuts by then, so I'd say it's 50/50 that he wasn't aware of the previous use of the tactic, or if he was fully aware and found it nicely ironic to use a Muggle method against their own so-called 'dirty blood'.

    As far as who's doing the testing, you're right, I can't see St. Mungo's doing the testing, especially when it's made clear what it's for. I assume they have some version of the Hippocratic oath, 'First, do no harm'. My guess (and this will likely all be fleshed out later in the story) is that it's some sub-division of the Auror Department, maybe even the Unspeakables (the name's gotta mean something, right?).

    And I wouldn't be horribly surprised if there weren't a few rotten apples messing with the results in some cases due to personal vendettas and whatnot.

    As far as the mothers pitching a fit and all, the general idea is that it's already ongoing, and that there HAS been resistence, hence the death sentence for mothers who refuse to give up their babies. Obviously, they must be Death Eater sympathizers, and guilty by association--at least according to those in charge of the program.

    And yes, there is likely to be a mass exodus of families who haven't registered or been tested, and possibly even those who are willing to protect and hide them, sort of like an Underground Railroad type of thing, except instead of smuggling out slaves or muggleborns/halfbloods, they'll be smuggling out women and their families who were involved in Voldemort's breeding program.

    As far as it being publicized...with the implication that some of the babies' mothers resisted and 'had' to be killed, I think it was made public on purpose, so the Ministry could control what was initially said, instead of having someone send in furious letters to the paper and having those published before the Ministry could put its own spin on the situation. The Daily Prophet is still very much in the Ministry's pocket, but some of their reporters, like the aforementioned Rita Skeeter, would throw them over in a second for more sensationalized news.

     With regard to loopholes, yes, Harry and Hermione will definitely be looking for those, as well as ways of keeping Ciaran off of the radar altogether. I doubt they will be satisfied with a loophole for him, when the Ministry may come back at a later date and find some quasi-logical reason for it not to apply.

    As the program is more widely known, I anticipate there being a lot of desperate parents trying to save their babies by any means possible, so we'll see. A sudden increase in abandoned babies may or may not happen--it would stand to reason that would look suspicious, and abandoned babies might start being automatically assumed to belong to Death Eaters, and then they'd be no better off.

     I am working on all of these angles--despite it having been so long since I've updated, I haven't abandoned the story.

    I just live in Tornado Alley, and we've had a very rough couple of months with multiple Evil-Storms-From-Hell, and we're just getting to the point where there aren't holes in the house, power poles snapped and tangled in live power lines, and 75+ year old trees down all over the yard, so up til recently, I haven't had any time to write between work and cleanup. It's been utterly insane!

    Thank you very much for the long and detailed review. I love it when I can see the wheels spinning in my readers' heads, and know that I've accomplished making you get invested in the story.

Title: Chapter 5 21 Apr 2011 1:40 am
Reviewer: ObsessiveaboutSnape (Signed) [Report This]
    I AM nicely Horrified, though I'm not sure there's anything nice about it.....

    Author's Response:

    Thanks for the review!

    And, I'm glad you're horrified. I get worried about the mental states of fanfic readers sometimes when they gush too much about how wonderful a chapter on murder, torture, etc was. I'm like, "That wasn't wonderful, it was AWFUL!"

    It's good to see you guys reacting all outraged rather than cheering at the prospect of blood the way some fans do, not that I'm not encouraged by the fact that so many of you are obviously reading and enjoying the story as a whole. That's part of what makes it so fun for me to write.

    I should have the next chapter up sometime this weekend. Trust me that Harry isn't going to take this latest moronic move by the Ministry lying down.

Title: Chapter 5 21 Apr 2011 12:52 am
Reviewer: DazzlingD (Signed) [Report This]
    was properly horrified.

    Author's Response: Glad to hear it! Thanks for the review!
Title: Chapter 5 21 Apr 2011 12:12 am
Reviewer: heartstar (Anonymous) [Report This]
    oh mY gOD This is a shocking way you went with this IF this happened in really life I think I would kill someone I now stuff like this has happened different politics religionand and cultures I just hoipe nothing like this happens now in our time.... Great job by the way! more please!

    Author's Response:

    Thanks! Glad you're enjoying it.

    And, the truth is, this kind of stuff happens all the time, masked behind one ideal or another. Though, it's usually not quite so blatant and is usually couched in religious philosophy or perceived justice for those responsible for a variety of war crimes--they just don't publicize the fact that it often involves the families of the accused as much as the accused themselves.

     

Title: Chapter 5 20 Apr 2011 5:24 pm
Reviewer: Lumiere (Signed) [Report This]
    I'm nicely horrified and really want to read more :)

    Author's Response: Thanks! I'm planning to have the next chapter up sometime this weekend.
Title: Chapter 5 20 Apr 2011 4:29 pm
Reviewer: squeegybug (Anonymous) [Report This]
    That is just-wrong!Horrible, EVIL of the Ministry. I hope that she gives them a good trouncing and leaves Hermione-shaped boot-marks all up and down the Ministry! They deserve it. I have never seen a worse travesty of justice! Executing the Mothers! Like they had a choice! If the War didn't cause Muggleborn's to flee the Wizarding world, this cock-up should! OK, yes, I'm well and properly incensed! Now fix this, I hate this helpless-against-huge-odds feeling, I get it enough watching Fox News.

    Author's Response:

    Hmmm...I don't think it would make Muggleborns leave the Wizarding world. After all, the claim is that it's being done to 'protect' them from the evil Death Eaters plots.

    Yes, this is definitely going to throw a wrench in the works at the Ministry. Kingsley did foist the corrupt workers--at least those loyal to Voldemort and his ideals--so, in theory, he should have more morally inclined employees.

    Keep in mind that the Ministry is a government, so all factions within aren't necessarily on board, or even aware, of everything going on at all times.

    Thanks for the review! I love seeing you guys' reactions and knowing I'm not becoming too predictable.

Title: Chapter 5 20 Apr 2011 3:37 pm
Reviewer: Shadow (Anonymous) [Report This]
    Oh my... I'm curious what Harry will do now. But the ministry is group of imbeciles. I hope that Harry will not have problems.
    I'm looking forward the next chapter =o)

    Author's Response:

    Lol, the problems are what makes the story!

    But, don't think Harry is going to take it lying down, because he's absolutely not.

     Thanks for the review!

Title: Chapter 5 20 Apr 2011 1:26 pm
Reviewer: Sita Z (Signed) [Report This]
    What a horrible thing for the Ministry to do! Harry's right, they're no better than Death Eaters; even worse, in my opinion, as the Death Eaters never specifically targeted children.
    Seems to me as if Snape has no chance of being acquitted; if they're executing innocent people, a former Death Eater will stand no chance... I hope Harry finds a way to break him out and rescue them both!
    Great chapter, it left me on the edge of my seat! More soon please!

    Author's Response:

    Thanks for the review!

    Even with the trial aspect, things were just a little too easy; it didn't seem realistic that Wizarding society wouldn't be reacting more to what had happened. I figured there would still be quite a bit of mass hysteria going on, and with other Death Eater trials happening 'off-screen' so to speak, it made sense that the breeding project would have been leaked.

    I'm not sure Snape needs to be broken out--the actual Death Eater trials are being done by the book through the Wizengamot, but that's not to say that they're going to be all that impartial. A lot of people are thirsting for vengeance, and like in any conflict, a lot of time it comes out afterward that good people went down with the bad.

    And you're right, with the exception of when they went after Neville and Harry as babies, they were more focused on Muggleborns as a whole than just the children--not that it really makes them any better, as they did slaughter whole families, right down to the infants. The babies just weren't usually the initial targets. Gotta keep that in perspective.

    I plan to have the next chapter up by this weekend, though it usually takes the mods a day or two to validate new chapters, so stay tuned.

Title: Chapter 5 20 Apr 2011 8:11 am
Reviewer: KimSpiritTalks (Signed) [Report This]
    Oh dear. What a terrible twist. Though it isn't something it would surprise me to see the ministry do. Good chapter and quick updating. Love it!

    Author's Response:

    Glad you're enjoying it!

    The Ministry isn't known for being all that level-headed at the best of times. But, it's a government, so keep in mind that not all parts of the Ministry are necessarily in agreement with everything it does. And, I'm basing parts of it off of real government, so the Child Welfare division is pretty autonomous from the actual judiciary and legislative branches.

    There will be lots of fallout, none of it pretty. But, it will certainly make things a good deal more difficult for everyone involved, that's for sure!

    Thanks for the review!


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